That 60 Minutes Episode

I had to fight the temptation to title this post, “The Bruce Morrison Show.” It certainly would have been an apt title, but just too snide. I have seen indications that Mr. Morrison sincerely believes in his cause, so I’ve toned things down a bit with the more mundane title.

But the fact remains that the show was a travesty, with Morrison as the main character. I know that many victims of the H-1B program were thrilled with the broadcast, feeling that “They are finally telling our story.” But the program, especially Morrison, completely mischaracterized the core problems with H-1B, and did so in exactly the manner the tech industry has been promoting: The message is that the firms I call the “Intels,” meaning those that hire H-1Bs as foreign students at U.S. universities, are using the visa program responsibly, while the “Infosyses,” the mainly Indian firms that hire H-1Bs directly from abroad and then rent them out to U.S. firms, are the Bad Guys.

Before I continue, I must clarify that I mean the “Intels” to include not only the large tech firms, but also many, many employers such as Bank of West, a Bay Area financial institution. The BofW also hires foreign students from U.S. campuses, just like Intels. So instead of describing the tech industry’s lobbying message as Intels Good, Infosyses Bad, let’s use a slightly less succinct term, F-1s Yes, Direct Imports No. (The student visa is F-1.)

Now, back to Morrison and the organization he represents, IEEE-USA. Morrison was the ONLY “expert” 60 Minutes chose to put on the show. (As I mentioned last week, the producer originally scheduled me to be filmed when they were in the Bay Area for the UCSF case, but canceled the next day.) Please bear with me here, because it is paramount to understand how egregious 60 Minutes’ choice of Morrison was as the star of their show.

Morrison, as the show mentions, was one of the original architects of H-1B in 1990. As too often is the case, he later became a lobbyist, from which he has been raking in the bucks. A major client is IEEE-USA, an organization of about 200,000 electrical engineers (many of whom are actually programmers). Why would those engineers be interested in Morrison, given my statement above that Morrison is really promoting the interests of the tech companies rather than tech workers?

The answer of course is that those engineers didn’t hire Morrison; their “leadership” did. (With many if not most being unaware of this.) And in turn, the leadership was motivated by survival. In the 1990s, IEEE-USA was in the forefront of opposing the H-1B program. However, this didn’t sit well with the IEEE parent organization, which is dominated by the industry and academia, the two sectors benefiting from H-1B. There were even public threats by the parent group, as I recall, and apparently the parent ordered IEEE-USA to back off. The main IEEE-USA staffer who was lobbying Congress against the visa program was reassigned, and his excellent Web page was taken down. And, by the way, calls by some members for the body to poll its members on the H-1B issue were refused.

And IEEE-USA hired Morrison, who with his former associate Paul Donnelly, who had moved to IEEE-USA, formulated the F-1s Yes, Direct Import No idea, in the form of granting green cards rather than work visas. This became what in recent years has become known as Staple a Green Card to Their [the Foreign Students in U.S. Schools’] Diplomas.

Here is the core of the issue:

  • The “Intels” are just as culpable regarding H-1B (and OPT etc.) as are the Infosyses.
  • The “Intels” have publicly admitted that their PR strategy is F-1s Yes, Direct Imports No. Demonizing the Infosyses distracts attention away from themselves.
  • Morrison was hired due to industry pressure on IEEE-USA, and he has been one of their main messengers promoting F-1s Yes, Direct Imports No.

60 Minutes knew of these things. As I mentioned before, the producer had talked to me on the phone for an hour. He and I have also had extensive e-mail exchanges. He was clearly very sharp, and the above points are verifiable. Yet they chose to make Morrison the hero of the show.

Granted, the show did briefly mention that companies like Google and Facebook (and CBS) use H-1Bs, and then juxtaposed it with a quote of Morrison, giving viewers the impression that the Intels too are abusing the system. Perhaps Morrison was alluding to the fact that some clients of the Infosyses are Intels.

But basically the show — including the thrust of Morrison’s commentary — was all about the Infosyses and the Direct Imports: The interviewed laid-off programmers were all victims of Infosyses; the entire narrative was about H-1Bs replacing Americans, as is the habit among the Infosyses, ignoring that there is just as much problem with H-1Bs being hired by the Intels instead of Americans; Morrison’s “loophole” involves the Infosyses; all the firms 60 Minutes listed as replacing Americans by H-1Bs — Disney, SCE, Northeast Utilities etc. — did so via the Infosyses.

Note that in the show, 60 Minutes knew, but did not tell viewers, that Morrison is a lobbyist who has made tons of money by delivering this message. 60 Minutes knew, but did not tell viewers, that Morrison’s description of a “loophole” was highly misleading. 60 Minutes knew, but did not explain to viewers (other than one fleeting instance of using the word young) that the core enabler of abuse of the visa is NOT the loophole, but instead is AGE, with employers hiring younger, thus cheaper H-1Bs in lieu of older, thus more expensive Americans.

Morrison’s loophole, implemented in the 1998 legislation that temporarily doubled the H-1B, was aimed at the Infosyses. This was the theme of the congressional discussion, Intels Good, Infosyses bad. The statute defined an “H-1B dependent” employer category, consisting of employers with 15% or more of their workforce being H-1Bs, and required such employers to give Americans hiring priority. (H-1B in general has no such requirement.) The 15% figure was strategically set; originally a 10% threshold was planned, but the Intels howled. H-1B dependent firms were then also required to pay at least $60,000 a year.

Morrison, both on 60 Minutes and in his numerous other public statements, gives the impression that all Congress need do is raise that $60K figure and the problem is solved. He doesn’t tell you that the Intels would not be subject to this, as they are not H-1B dependent employers.

One of those Intels, for instance, is IBM. That company is also into the outsourcing business, and even if the Infosyses were shut down tomorrow, companies like IBM would take up the slack. And with Staple, a likely ingredient to any legislation, Disney etc. would just hire from that new pool. Result: No additional jobs freed for American workers.

Morrison’s favorite line — used repeatedly in mantra-like fashion by him and his surrogates — is “The H-1B visa was not intended to be used for cheap labor.” This is clearly an incorrect claim, as can be seen for instance in the low wage floors defined in H-1B law. Instead of a single wage floor for a given occupation and region, there are multiple levels of experience defined, enabling the core of H-1B abuse — hiring younger, thus cheaper, H-1Bs in lieu of older, thus more expensive Americans. Indeed the change from two levels to four in the 2004 legislation had been pushed by the American Immigration Lawyers Association for years, and by the way, was endorsed by this same IEEE-USA. Small wonder the vast majority of H-1Bs are at Levels I and II (for both the Intels and the Infosyses).

And there’s a lot more. Morrison’s legislation defined the wage floor as the average wage for the given occupation, region and experience level. This is a more subtle, though even more pernicious, hidden loophole, as follows. The employers claim they hire H-1Bs for their rare skill sets, but rare skill sets command a premium wage in the open market, not the average one. In other words, the employer is getting a more valuable worker for just an average wage.

But of course, none of this was stated in the 60 Minutes report either. The bottom line is that Morrison couldn’t have asked for a better platform for his misleading message.


48 thoughts on “That 60 Minutes Episode

  1. I worked for a “small” software company that was (is) staffed by 100 % H1B visa developers. This gets so frustrating. You once provided a link to a site where we could see data or information on what kind of H1B workers (?) we’re being hired, per each individual company. It turns out my previous employer also hired a marketing manager via a similar visa!

    I once checked to see if legal action could be taken, and I was told I didn’t have standing.

    I happen to have a close confidant who worked for the government in this area, looking at abuses (I am purposefully being vague), and the bureaucracy is mind blowing! Clear, evidence-backed cases of discrimination were tabled or minimized. They just follow the procedures, the people with power frobnicate, staffers become exasperated, and little changes.

    Would rebutting 60 Minutes help? Publishing a rebuttal in a major publication or on their site? I must offer the nomenclature and minutia probably drives a lot of people away.

    Thank you for all of your efforts.


  2. Another clever “benefit” of using the “Infosys” argument is that, not only does it “distract” from the abuse by Google, Microsoft, Intel, etc., but it also positions the argument as being “Foreign companies bad, U.S. companies good.” It adds a flavor of economic nationalism to the story. Thus if the argument holds and only cosmetic changes are made, then the result is that “American companies and workers have been protected, which is good for America’s economy.” And if the argument fails and H1-B/etc. continue their present trajectory, the result is that “Racism and bigotry have been avoided by our enlightened, globalist perspective.” The lobbyists are positioning themselves for a win/win, no matter how the issue is resolved.


  3. As an aside, I recently had a chat with an executive of a small IT company. He commented how they had their IT staff largely offshore in a smaller Asian country. “It’s not about money, it’s loyalty… We want someone who buys into our vision, who wants to see it through.” A few glasses of wine later, he admitted money was also an issue.

    If President Trump survives the ACA repeal and replace, the media witch hunt, and his fellow GOP backstabbers, might he tackle this issue? Reports from DC are that he is very open and not insular like President Obama.


    • Keep shipping America’s wealth to other nations instead of taking care of our own people and see what kind of “vision” you have in another few decades. These CEOs are so short-sighted and blind. Not only are they destroying the fabric of their own nation as a whole, they are potentially enabling enemy countries which would want to destroy the USA. Blind, blind, blind – just as England’s Rolls Royce sold aircraft engines to Hitler before WW2 – aircraft Hitler later used to destroy London.

      This prompted the US gov’t to pass the “Trading With Enemies Act” – which is now being ignored.

      Something about “Those who don’t learn from history…” comes to mind……


  4. Well, I wish the problem was confined to simply 60 Minutes giving a distorted perspective, but it is a much large problem that indicates the current overall state of health of our media. (Healthy is the level of objective reporting versus special interest slanting.)
    The last 100 or so articles I have read about H1-Bs in mainstream media are the same, in that even though the annual report by Homeland Security has easily attainable figures on what H1-Bs are paid, the media reports it as if the only available source of this information on their true salary is some industry titans opinion. And of course this is always that they are paid the same or “even more.”
    Are we to believe that our national press corps is incapable of the basic research required to pull up the Homeland Security report? Is this the explanation as to why the mainstream press consistently withholds this information? Ineptness?
    How about Congressmen and their staff? Are they all incapable of finding that report, written by their colleagues in government offices just down the hall? How is it that even the basic facts of this issue such as salary are denied a voice?
    I am open to possibilities as to how this could happen, but to me, it points to a corrupt media across the board. If anyone knows of any other possible explanation how the mainstream press, and congressmen like Tillis can pretend they do not know the true salaries of the H1-Bs when it is printed in an annual government report, that is easily available, then please, please explain this.
    Is there any other possible explanation beyond “they are lying for money.”


  5. From what I see, the large contracting firms hire from Infosys. In my workplace, 100% of the new contractors come from S India via Lockheed. Surely Lockheed wouldn’t be recruiting in India. How does this work? Would these new contractors be affected by the Morrison proposal?


    • “Surely Lockheed wouldn’t be recruiting in India. How does this work?”

      From the Lockheed Martin website.

      “With a presence in India for over 25 years, Lockheed Martin opened our India subsidiary in New Delhi in 2008 ….”


      “Our partnership and joint venture company with Tata Advanced Systems Limited (TASL) has proven that Indian industry can manufacture airframe components for the C-130J airlifter and the S-92 helicopter.”

      So Lockheed can move its workers from India to the US guest worker program.

      Lockheed can also recruit US college grads from India.


      • I remember that one apologist for offshoring said once, “Offshoring is for the small stuff. The U.S. is not manufacturing jet engines in India” — only to find that they in fact were.


        • In re: aircraft manufacturing, the US today only makes military jet engine parts and components. Almost all other commercial plane manufacturing has been outsourced to China, S. Korea, Japan, Thailand, India, the Philippines and other places. Go visit GE Aircraft engines in Cincinnati or the UTC Pratt & Whitney offices (Connecticut) – hollowed out factories, empty offices, cube after cube, office after office is empty. This has been going on for decades. The latest engine from GE the CFM90 almost fully manufactured outside the US – only the assembly, and final shipment to Boeing happens within the country.


  6. I would like to comment on the issue of age in the tech industry. With all the displacement of older workers, there is an incredible knowledge base that is being lost. I have a millennial techie at home and had to teach him how to use DOS because it is not taught or acknowledged in schools, even though it is still an underlying part of Windows. He complained to me that video games are now massive in size, 50G in some cases. This led to a discussion on the lost art of overlaying code and pruning code to save execution cycles. The younger programmers don’t code like this anymore and rely on technology to solve the space and time problems that crop up. Older programmers knew how to compensate for the limits.


  7. Hi Norman,
    Now I get the “statute” that Bruce Morrison was referring to in that CBS 60 minutes episode.

    So, the Infosyses that have more than 15% of the workforce have to pay a minimum of $60k to avoid hiring an American.

    How about the intels? Whats the loophole for them? Is it the “prevailing wage or $60k and you don’t have to hire an American”?


  8. All of this is a prelude to Staple and tech workers do not see this. IEEE supports Staple. Universities support Staple because Staple will increase enrollments. Someone called international students a “financial life jacket” for universities. Companies support Staple. Immigration attorneys support Staple (more work for them).

    Labeling the Infosyses as bad gives a justification for Staple. Supporters of Staple claim a guest worker can no longer be abused as an indentured servant with Staple. The guest worker can just move to another job.

    The most powerful force behind Staple are universities and their massive money problems. Staple WILL pass.

    There is a lot of pressure from educators to turn STEM into STEAM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts, and Math). The Arts are suppose to teach critical thinking skills and creative thinking skills which can be applied to STEM subjects.

    The arts are facing huge drops in enrollment. The pay for many of these majors is too low. I will not be surprised if Staple is expanded to include any college degree. Staple WILL pass.


    • >> Immigration attorneys support Staple (more work for them).

      On the contrary, Immi attorneys want status quo with more H-1/L-1/alphabet visas.. Recurring and guaranteed source of income ! Why would they kill (or alter) the goose that lays golden eggs?

      With Staple, their clients will go away from them .. pretty quick!


    • Joe Anon, your observations are astute and hit the nail on the head. Its the Universities that are the driving force behind the visa problems and rightly so – they get hundreds of thousands of students each year from India and China. Professors and academicians have a vested interest in continuing the visa regime – their 7-figure salaries, bonus, pensions, endowments and massive campuses that are the envy of the corporate world. It is called the AIC – Academic Industrial Complex – and has been around for awhile.


        • What I don’t understand is this: if the US has been definitively the wealthiest country in the world for past several decades, how is it that Indian and Chinese student can afford college education there while US citizen can’t? Where are they getting such large amounts of money? I mean China is (by leaps and bounds) becoming a developed country, but it is currently only a quarter of the living standard of the American society. India is still poorer and its middle class can’t get education there without assistance.

          I guess the most common explanation is that most international students attend PG school, so they are not as much in debt as a US citizen who has attended either both UG & PG or only UG in the US. But, I am still not convinced since I would’ve opted out out of uncertainty of being unemployed afterwards. Unless of course the 3-year OPT is enough to recover the money.

          Is it possible that many international students are sponsored by their company or are funded by a wealthy relative living in America or elsewhere? This article I found gives us information regarding standard international students’ avenues for paying for college. I know the usual ones like RA, TA or GA, but not everyone is qualified to teach or research. I’ve heard that international UG students can get scholarships based upon their SAT scores.


          • The answer is simple: To get their US education financed, the Chinese (graduate) students are more resourceful and are willing to do anything to succeed. They’ll work as waiters in Chinese restaurants and as tutors (on a cash, no-tax basis in both cases); they’ll jam many roommates into a room; they’ll rely somewhat on US relatives if possible; they will start out their study in the “wrong” department (e.g. math then change to CS), at the “wrong” school (start out at a weaker school where they can get financial support then transfer to the better one when they’ve saved up money in the US); etc. For undergrads, some do come from well-off families, but probably most do not. The Chinese social network is tops in terms of ferreting out ways to cope financially.


  9. based on your logic, the real solution is to cancel F1 visa so foreign students will never come to USA or put a requirement that any F1 student is banned from receiving any work visa. you must be living in pain and anger every day because UC davis definitely has a large population of foreign students and you have to see and interact with those job thieves every day.


    • But the foreign students at Davis are nice people, unlike some from, say, CMU. 🙂 Just kidding.

      The original purpose of F-1 was to help people in Third World countries. They would come here, learn useful skills, then return home and help the impoverished people there. F-1 was not intended as a steppingstone to immigration.

      My position has always been clear: Facilitate the immigration of the truly outstanding, but not the mediocre.


      • Not only F-1 but also H-1B and L-1 also enable long-term immigration – something they were never designed to do. Since there is little enforcement or tracking of foreign students/workers, many of them disappear into America and the US govt even admits it has no idea where many of them are. Then they open their own staffing agencies (India Incs) as KUMAR EXCLUSIVE calls them, and hire more foreign students/workers.

        We also must realize that foreign students working in US is also a conduit for foreign industrial/technology spies as Epic Systems found out the hard way.


      • when you say “instead of” American citizens, there is no real life example and no legal standing to sue and has no power to convince law makers, there is virtually no way for a US applicant to know who finally got the job or the nationality composition of the applicant pool. The only way you can convincingly debunk “Intels good Infosys bad” is that after Infosys is gone, Intels will do the same things as Infosys do. Then there will be real life examples. If you cannot even achieve the first step, how can you convince people about your predictions?


        • Actually, I’ve personally seen many real-life examples, my younger foreign students get interviews and job offers from the same companies that don’t even give an interview to equally-qualified but older Americans that I know.

          It can be seen in other ways as well. For example, many companies explicitly earmark jobs for new or recent graduates.


          • the older Americans you mention did not lose anything that initially belonged to them, they just did not get what they wanted. Job application rejections are too common to draw media attention.

            Unlike the case presented in the 60 minutes, when US citizens described how they were forced to train foreign replacements, that is touching and emotional and can draw attention.

            You may have that information but the older Americans you mentioned do not know who finally got the job and will have no idea who else apply for the job. “Equally qualified” can be very subjective as well.


          • It is natural for you to believe that no American was qualified for YOUR job.

            I’ve seen the CVs of some of those students and the Americans, hence my comment on being equally qualified. The Americans have every skill set that the foreign students have, and more.

            If you choose not to believe that, that’s up to you. But it is a FACT that many jobs are officially open to new or recent graduates. Case closed.


        • One problem is that the only “real life example” we seem capable of seeing is the case where an H-1B is hired to replace a native worker and the native worker has to train the H-1B worker. I have twice gone through another method of replacement in which the company hires both H-1B and native workers during good times and then lays off chiefly the native workers during a downturn. One thing that we should do is to make some attempt to follow what happens to those native workers who are laid off. If the great majority quickly find other work then one could say that the damage is chiefly temporary and is part of the “creative destruction” of capitalism. If a large number of workers appear to be driven out of the industry, however, then you likely have a much bigger problem. I would have been more than happy to report my status to the government after my layoffs but nobody asked. Only by collecting real statistics on what is going on and we judge whether there is truly a shortage and whether we truly need foreign workers. It would have been better if we had been collecting this data all along so that we could detect any change. In any event, we should start collecting that data now.


    • What amazes me is regardless of what letter or intent of the law is, the fact is, any country should be taking care of it’s own people first. Today with the huge masses of people out of work, there are more than enough natives to choose from.

      As the one commentor above stated, it’s all about CONTROL, and secondarily about $. Organizations want people they can CONTROL and who have to work under some threat (deportation, job loss, etc) rather than a free American who can just walk in one day and quit. Visas provide this control to organizations, and that is why they want foreign workers.

      But in the long run this harms the country overall because if a nation does not take care of its own people, it becomes weak and poor, and that eventually invites conquest from other nations.

      More short-term profit and control by sacrificing national survival in the long term.

      This WILL not end well for America, long term.


  10. Hi Prof. Matloff. On every post at the bottom it says, “Related”, along with 3 links. Are these links that you selected?


  11. Prof. Matloff,
    I am curious if you have seen the article below and what your take is? I feel this is an encouraging development, and we need a lot more of this to help our citizens.

    Both silicon valley and appalachia are insular in their own ways. In the 90s, with all the free-trade agreements, the idea was that the blue collar workers will be able to move up the chain and secure better jobs in the new information economy, but it seems to have never happened.

    I don’t know if the manufacturing/mining jobs that left US will ever return as Trump promised. We need to keep these well paid IT jobs in the country instead providing those jobs to offshorers/H1-Bs coming out of the degree mills in foreign countries – looks like most of the engineering “graduates” from indian schools are unemployable and one indian company is training high school graduates, according to the article below.

    “Even after being armed with university degrees, an overwhelming majority of engineering graduates are deemed unemployable. So, instead of banking on the churn of subpar engineers, India’s fourth-largest software enterprise is plucking raw talent and skilling them up in-house.”

    So much for the “best and the brightest” solving the “STEM worker shortage” in US through H1-B/offshoring programs.


  12. Despite the show’s flaws in allowing Morrison to frame the debate, at least 60 minutes finally made partial amends for its disastrous piece many years ago. In that piece, recall that Lesley Stahl went to India and swallowed, hook line and sinker, a giant helping of Indian propaganda about IIT and indians in general. Good to see they are capable of critical analysis on H-1b now.


  13. The H1B visa is nothing more than corporate greed wrapped up in immigration clothing – The American worker and their H1B counterparts are both victims of V1B abuse. The H1B visa was designed (by Bruce Morrison) to make it perfectly legal for corporations, foreign and domestic, to replace American workers with cheap indentured labor main from India. The H1B visa benefits a handful of very rich people, Mark Zuckerberg for example, at a very high cost to the rest of us. Don’t blame the H1B visa holders, blame the corrupt CEOs, lobbyists (Bruce Morrison), politicians (Hillary and Rubio) and immigration lawyers who push the false rhetoric that the H1B visa is somehow good for America.


  14. I agree that the H-1b was designed to replace American workers and it is correct to blame Zuckerberg and his bloated, greedy ilk, along with lobbyists and the politicians who keep lying to us about it. They tell us H-1b doesn’t displace Americans; H-1b actually creates jobs in America. Right. It must be my imagination that an Indian now sits in the same cube where an American once sat. They like to tell us that up is down and green is purple.

    Where I would beg to differ is about not blaming the Indians who take our jobs. If they falsify their CVs to show greatly inflated education and experience to give themselves an advantage in the job market over Americans with legitimate education and experience, and the rumor is most Indians do, then they are culpable too. Even if they don’t personally do it, but their bodyshop does it for them.


    • Actually I think Zuckerberg is just a pawn for higher forces. I believe there is a small group of very powerful and influential people who make an unbelievable amount money by selling out the American people. Zuckerberg is cheap and not too bright (Facebook wasn’t an original idea, he’s more of a lottery winner than anything) but he was smart enough to see the financial benefits of cheap indentured labor. I think the forces behind the guest worker (h1B, L1, OPT, F1) program are becoming worried and they are desperately looking to shift the focus away from anyone finding out who’s behind these programs and why; greed! Bruce Morrison used his influence to get a platform on 60 minutes so he could point the finger at Indian Outsourcing. Shifting blame is the hallmark of fraud. Indian outsourcing companies, like Zuckerberg are simply taking advantage of a law that makes if perfectly legal to replace American workers, by who? How much would a company pay if I could offer them an asset that saves them 30%, they get to replace it after 7 years and there is no long term liability. The trick to this scheme is the same strategy the drug industry uses, price your drugs just low enough to stay off the front page of the New York Times. The India outsourcing companies are violating that rule, there is a lot of unwanted attention, the powers at the top are becoming worried, so they are throwing the Indian outsourcing companies under the bus. American companies have been doing the same thing for 2 decades, they have just been subtler about it.

      This is so bad for America, but there are very powerful sources who make huge amounts of money and they can literally buy time on our media and spin the story the way they want. They win, simply by keeping the guest worker program as it is going, adding more is just a bonus.

      There was a time in the past when politicians taking money from foreign governments to help replace American workers would be punishable by impeachment; somehow the rules were changed. Maybe it’s time to revisit those days.


  15. The 60 minutes story is just the tip of the H1B ice berg. American high tech companies maybe even more guilty of abusing the H1B for cheap labor than outsourcing companies. Intel, for example, has ruthlessly replaced older American tech workers (older is over 35) with cheap labor, mainly from India for years. The Intel campus in Folsom will soon have as many people from India as it does all others, including H1b’s from other countries. And the majority of them are under 30, many fresh out of college with little or no experience (there is no more special skill than any other college graduate). The corporate culture is skewed in favor of individuals of the same age group, geographical region and religion, that’s precisely why anti-discrimination laws were created. And Intel now uses meritocracy for systematic termination, move up or “your fired!” and “you can never be again be hired by Intel or an Intel affiliate”. American workers, especially minorities are at a distinct disadvantage, management sees H1Bs as a cheaper fungible asset, and the H1B assets perceive themselves helping with weak American workers, so they must be better, Intel can say American tech workers can’t cut it. Under this system Intel and others (Facebook, Google, Yahoo..) have been quietly replacing highly qualified American tech worker with cheap H1B workers for years, with no embarrassing video showing American workers training their replacements (which they do) or media shame. Hundreds of thousands of American tech workers have been replaced by cheap foreign labor can you imagine the cost savings. Cheap indentured labor, with no long term liability, why wouldn’t corporate CEO’s be looking to avoid American and hire H1B. Abolish H1B.


  16. I have read professor matloff’s points, and also that self glorification of these brown indians ( I AM AN OLIVE SKINNED PERSON, BORN IN INDIA, THOUGH AN INBREED, and never equated myself one to be ,and after undergoing training in bioinformatics etc from edinburgh, I have come to conclusion that indians are world rejcts). And I agree with him in full.

    I can’t understand, what was the need to push for these H1B visas and jobs to India?

    India lacks basic education, infact, it is still a mess.

    Majority of Indians who study abroad, actually go to find a job, not to do a path breaking research. True, some names appear, but they too struggle the way any american, or british, or germans do. Still won’t make for the case that Indians are great.

    The positions which Indian man power fill in the corporations are mostly clerical, a high end one, like CTO,CEO,CIO, which don’t have any decision wielding authority. Besides, these people clear exams like GRE, GMAT through those mechanical coaching centres, and cram those stuff. What’s so special in it?Majority of these people who study from foreign universities are from well to do families, who want to have psuedo power in India, under the name of development. I don’t see any real development happening in India.Some random apps for a grocery store is not actual development. At least, an app to help poor people book their gas cylinders at low cost would be something in which I would be interested in.

    Clearly that case that it is mostly second rung. Can’t understand what’s great in being a CEO or CTO, when the labor work was done by others? Professor matloff himself has said that the technological work for Sun Microsystems was done by Bill Joy and Bechtolsheim, and both of them had stellar history in the field of vi editor and electronic components hackery.

    Not to forget, the fesitvals like diwali, holi etc which these people celebrate, on the lands of british, america, canada etc , without understanding that the festivals of indians are not related with race, ethnicity. The festivals like halooween have a historical connections of the ethnic people of their lands, where they celebrate the second coming of their lords like loki, triglav etc.

    Unfortunately, these body shoppers have created a mess. They wanted to control India, because they are world rejects. And in this process, they have promoted hypocrisy, nepotism here. The talented people are suffering a lot in India right now, and our eco system don’t promote entrepreneurship, because that too is filled with croynism, nepotism or casteism.


  17. Foreign students have turned into a $ 35 billion industry. Many colleges/universities rely on money brought in this way.
    Why do you think these students and their parents invest this much ? Could it be to be able to stay and help family members to also come ?


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