H-1B: the Movie

Well, the inevitable has happened — the H-1B topic has reached the movies. The trailer of For Here or To Go looks pretty good, and has a plausible plot. The writer/producer is himself an H-1B.

There is no doubt that many H-1Bs are victims. How else could it be? It is Econ 101: A program whose central purpose is providing cheap foreign labor will oversubscribe, with work permission depending on luck of the draw, and with wait times for green cards heading toward infinity.

On the other hand, the film is sure to make many techies’ blood boil, as the film seems to show zero sympathy for the American victims of the program. And of course there are American victims. How else could it be? It is Econ 101:  A program whose central purpose is providing cheap foreign labor will naturally undercut wages and (more importantly) reduce job opportunities for U.S. citizens and permanent residents.

Indeed, a Quartz article promoting the movie also seems oblivious to the pain and suffering that H-1B and EB-series green cards have brought to American workers. I’ve mentioned before “Ike,” an over-35 Bay Area resident with two Master’s degrees from a first-tier U.S. university, has excellent work experience, is very articulate and a team player, yet in the last two years has applied for more than 2,000 jobs; all he has to show for it is a couple of short-term (measured in weeks) contracts.

The Quartz article cites Stuart Anderson’s NFAP studies that claim magic entrepreneurial powers for the former H-1Bs. I and others have debunked such claims, so I won’t go into that here. But the fact that the article cites research of a man who has made his living for two decades writing pro-H-1B studies (Anderson) suggests that part of the funding for the film came from some entity with an agenda, say the immigration lawyers association.

The article does include links labeled “providing cheap labor” and “driving down wages.” I followed the two links and found that the first leads to my Web site! Well, thank you very much. 🙂 The second link, though, was to another Quartz article, which not only cited NFAP but also two professors who openly are funded by the industry.

After I panned the highly misleading 60 Minutes episode on H-1B recently, one reader said that at least the show mentioned that the American victims blame their employers and Congress, not the H-1B workers themselves. I replied that I have never understood why someone might suggest otherwise, i.e. suggest that criticism of H-1B is tantamount to xenophobia, as I have heard for instance from a former Computerworld editor and a staffer for then-Rep. Mike Honda. My response was the obvious: If you lose your job to cheap labor, or are passed over by employers who hire cheap labor instead of hiring you, you don’t care who the cheap worker is. You don’t care about the race or nationality of that worker; you simply care that Congress has set up programs to enable this, and employers are taking advantage of those programs. That point, however, does not seem to be recognized in this movie.

Starting this Friday at a theater near you.

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54 thoughts on “H-1B: the Movie

  1. I wonder how many of the companies founded by former H-1B workers are small consultancy firms like the one that initially hired the now green card holder? Let us know the number of companies that are:

    1. still in existence 5 years after their founding,

    2. providing goods or services other than job placement for H-1B visa holders,

    3. have the number of US natives, naturalized citizens, green card holders and guest workers including students on CPT and OPT in approximately the proportion of the population ,

    and

    4.have an ethnic representation in proportion to that in the US

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  2. > My response was the obvious: If you lose your job to cheap labor, or are passed over by employers who hire cheap labor instead of hiring you, you don’t care who the cheap worker is. You don’t care about the race or nationality of that worker; you simply care that Congress has set up programs to enable this, and employers are taking advantage of those programs.

    True. On this topic, I’ve always liked the song “We Can’t Make It Here” by James McMurtry. In the YouTube version at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbWRfBZY-ng , McMurtry sings the following lyrics at about the 3:25 mark:

    Should I hate a people for the shade of their skin
    Or the shape of their eyes or the shape I’m in?
    Should I hate ’em for having our jobs today
    No I hate the men who sent the jobs away

    I can see them all now, they haunt my dreams
    All lily white and squeaky clean
    They’ve never known want, they’ll never know need
    Their sh*t don’t stink and their kids won’t bleed
    Their kids won’t bleed in their damn little war
    And we can’t make it here anymore

    The album containing this song came out in 2005 when George W. Bush was president and seems to be chiefly addressing the loss of manufacturing jobs. Still, it works well for the loss of IT jobs by native (especially older) IT workers and describes who they should hold responsible.

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  3. Its surprising that the movie has captured your attention. That means they really are marketing well.

    “On the other hand, the film is sure to make many techies’ blood boil, as the film seems to show zero sympathy for the American victims of the program”

    If a person like John Miano or someone similar were to make a film on American techies and their hardships, would they focus on H1B’s struggling in greencard backlogs? I highly doubt that

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    • I will let John speak for himself. But I have to say that speaking in general, the writings of the H-1B critics are much, much more balanced than of the H-1B defenders. This is easily verifiable. Just compare my papers to those of Giovanni Peri; I cite many papers that are pro-H-1B, but he doesn’t cite the ones in opposition to H-1B.

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      • There are 3 distinct entities here and not just H1B critics and H1B defenders.

        1) H1B critics
        2) H1B defenders : Those who want more H1B’s. Peri falls in this category
        3) Defenders of H1B holder stuck in GC: Those who do not want more H1B’s but fix the system for currently stuck H1B’s: Organizations like Immigration Voice.

        Its true Peri might rarely cite H1B critics. But that is obvious because he is a defender of the program rather than the H1B holder.

        The defenders of H1B holders, although not as well funded as Peri do point out time and again, how the H1B abuse is hurting American workers. You might not necessarily agree with their approach or solutions but the fact is they do sympathize.

        As far as this movie goes, atleast from the trailer it appears to be a struggle of H1B holders stuck in backlog rather than a propaganda for requesting more H1B’s. Also to be fair to the makers, it appears that they have selected a good blend of characters. Not all three are portrayed in the best and brightest category. Atleast one of them appears to be an ordinary H1B doing ordinary work.

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        • Forgive me for saying so, but I have always found the claims from the green card waiters that they are concerned about the impact on Americans to be phony, just a nice-sounding thing to add to their pitch.

          Concerning the movie trailer, one theme that irks me is the sense of entitlement, that they are so beneficial to the U.S. This also is a common theme in the reviews of the movie in the Indian press, and of course statements made by Immigration Voice and so on.

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          • I can’t speak with certainty for all green card waiters but if their concerns are truly phony then its bad for them because as soon as they get their green cards, they are in the same boat as many of the struggling Americans.

            Sense of entitlement, that they are so beneficial to the US? That is for US to decide. I would disregard the Indian press because they are clueless about H1B facts and defending infosys ,TCS and Wipro is their bread and butter. But you are right, among green card waiters there is a sense of entitlement. But that has generated out of waiting and waiting and waiting

            Nobody bothered whether I was the best and brightest when I paid more than 50K in school tuition twice. This year will mark the tenth year I will be paying Social security and Medicare Tax. A benefit I am not sure, I will be able to claim when I would truly need it. It is not entitlement, it is a valid question. At what stage do we get accepted into the society ? Another 10 years? or whose “best and brightest” criteria do we need to match in order to be accepted?

            A convenient response would be “You knew about it before you came”. The answer is “Not Really”. As a 22 year old student with pure focus on academia you certainly fail to understand the complexity and impact of H1B and the overall US immigration system 10 years down the line.

            Many US congressmen and US media have failed to understand the true impact of H1B and Greencard backlogs. I would certainly not blame myself or others like me for being naive and building my life here.

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          • When they get their green cards, many are still young, early 30s, and are not yet in the same boat as the Americans. They don’t know it yet, but they WILL be in the same boat later on. I have on many occasions in Fremont CA overhead one 40- or 50-ish Indian man say to another, “I’m currently between jobs.”

            The claim that speeding up the green card process would help Americans comes from the organizations, not the individuals. But many of the individual have the attitude that they are greatly enhancing the American economy.

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          • Hi Norman,
            Heck, the Americans are getting whammied. And H1-b’s are getting exploited for cheap labour for 10-12 years (Assuming Indian, green card wait times) and at the end they are in the same boat as the American citizens. Losing a job at 40 years old is rough. And on top of this, the labour market is flooded so as to depress the wages of any job that you “might” get.

            Regarding the STEM shortage, specifically in IT industry, do you think there might be any shortage is one of the many disciplines of computer science.
            For example maybe there isn’t a shortage of programmers, DBA’s, etc. But do you think in other areas like cybersecurity, info sec, networking, network management, network security, etc, there might be a shortage?
            Based on your personal experience, (or for that matter any readers of this blog), do you guys know any displaced American in the above disciplines?

            As always, your work is greatly appreciated. Have a good day.

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          • Over the long years that I have been writing about H-1B, there have been a number of instances in which an employer said, “I know H-1B is abused, but we are really different. We simply can’t find qualified Americans. In a number of those cases, I personally knew of qualified Americans, but when I sent them to the employer, the Americans didn’t even get a phone interview. So, I am really skeptical when I hear such claims.

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          • “stuck” in GC queue,
            So what you’re saying Mack, is
            – you came as a foreign student expecting you could stay permanently?
            – and you got that idea from …?
            – and the US is somehow obligated to accommodate that?
            – and you have no clue once GC’ed, you’ll be tossed for a fresh/cheap H1B, to join other GCs/citizens in the unemployment line?
            – and this is good for the US and it’s citizens because …?

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          • Which we have been hearing for the past 19 years as the US sinks ever further into debt due to the errosion of our tax and consumer bases and more and more Americans out of work as foreign workers take over and exclude us deliberately. $22 trillion in debt and 90 million unemployed is clearly not contributing to the US econ.

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  4. Not to be crass but this is a typical Bollywood plot, heavy on propaganda (India is the greatest country in the world, full of geniuses), turmoil between the son and his family and don’t forget the hallmark of every Bollywood movie “there will be dancing.” What I always find fascinating, is that upwards of 70% of the “best and brightest” come from India, a country with one of the worst education systems in the world. In 2009 “India ranked second last among the 73 countries that participated in the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), conducted annually to evaluate education systems worldwide by the OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) Secretariat.”

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    • I’m kind of a fan of Bollywood, and enjoy the more serious Indian films as well.

      One of the questions I’ve long had is why India has failed to reduce inequality like China has done, to a great degree. Harvard economist Richard Freeman has claimed that it is, in various senses, deliberate. I hope not.

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      • Reducing Inequality in a democracy is always difficult and India is a democracy of 1.3 billion. China managed it because of communism. Inspite of the overall drawbacks of communism, if the government decides it needs to reduce inequality, it can significantly.

        Inequality in India is somewhat deliberate. The influence of rich over the government is one major reason. Secondly there are sections of the political spectrum who thrive on inequality. Inequality brings grief and dissatisfaction which can be exploited for votes.

        However I would say that things are not much different in US in terms of the way inequality is exploited. The only difference is the impact on the population. If tomm US has 1.3 billion Americans then there would not be much difference.

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        • Putting aside the super-rich, the poor segment of American society is much closer to the average than is the case in India.

          India may not be formally communist, but it is certainly socialist, and could do far more than it has.

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          • Agreed. There is no comparison between poor in India vs Poor in America. But to understand the poverty or inequality in India you would have to live the Indian life. If you go by the numbers provided by an economist, things will always look much miserable than they actually are.

            For instance in day to day life of upper middle class Indians.
            1) There one person cleaning/maintaining the apt for them
            2) There is cook that provides daily meal
            3) There is Nanny taking care of kids
            4) there is person who washes your car daily and all other cars in the community
            5) There is a person who irons the clothes
            6) offcourse a driver
            And many more.

            All these people work on Cash and through hard work they make enough money to get sufficient food, put their kids to good schools and provide sufficient healthcare. Off-course they do not pay taxes and neither does the income tax department bother them because the cost of penalizing them will be much more than the penalties.An economist will not be able to capture this parallel economy in his/her data and thus all these people, although still poor, will come as starving and unemployed which is not the case.

            Having said Indians are still far away. Corruption among government officials is significantly high and Xenophobia and caste discrimination are still a part of the society but much less than before. Newer generation is much more progressive and I am certain Xenophobia and discrimination will be minimal in the next 2 or 3 decades. But corruption still remains the bigger puzzle..

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          • Big cities in China, including Hong Kong, used to be like what you describe. There is still some of that going on, but the education system is set up so that young people today, even in the inland areas, have a path to a good middle-class life. India’s education system doesn’t have that so much, to my knowledge.

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        • Poverty is subjective – it has to do with security regarding the basics. “… live on $x a day” is irrelevant – because it depends on what $x buys, anywhere. $60K in San Francisco will not pay for an apartment. There are people who work in Seattle, living in tents, because they have no affordable apartments.
          For a country as rich as the US, this is shameless.
          As for corruption, India is infested with it at all levels, whereas the majority of it in the US is massive and at the higher levels. Average public utilities electrical worker isn’t going to try dinging the local resident to extort money to turn their electricity on. Yet. However, who knows where we’ll end up with the aggressive wage suppression. The US is looking more and more Lord/Serf these days.

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  5. When will there be a movie made about the plight of older IT workers?
    I could think of plenty of good plotlines, but I guess it doesn’t fit in with the Hollywood/Silicon Valley agenda….

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    • There was a movie, Falling Down, with Michael Douglas as William Foster, a divorced and unemployed former defense engineer. According to Wikipedia, “Along the way, a series of encounters, both trivial and provocative, cause him to react with increasing violence and make sardonic observations on life, poverty, the economy, and commercialism.”

      “Unemployed defense workers were also angered at their portrayal in the film. Falling Down has been described as a definitive exploration of the notion of the “angry white male”.”

      According to Entertainment Weekly, March 12, 1993, “now jobless defense workers are protesting. ”We issued a laid-off workers’ survival guide, and street fighting is not one of the tips,” and “worries that Douglas’ ”cartoonish flattop and pocket pen protector” will stigmatize all defense workers.”

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      • Same as with South Park’s “THEY TOOK OUR JOBS” episode in the early 2000s. Establishment attempts to make legitimate American complaints look foolish and dismissive. Trivialization of an important issue by the establishment so those not harmed won’t bother doing anything about it.

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  6. That’s one of the big mysteries about India. Most Americans believe that since they dress like us and talk like us, they then have our values, but it simply isn’t true, they struggle with xenophobia, discrimination and inequality on levels we can barely understand. Just this week black Nigerians were attacked and beaten, some hospitalized, because a New Delhi young person died from a drug overdose and Indian mobs attributed it to black people. Rape and murder often go unpunished against dalits and women. Even highly educated people I’ve worked with have very strong biases. The hindus, openly discriminate against Muslims sometimes even enacting laws that exclude them. India is a paradox.

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  7. Has anyone ever collected the number of
    – American STEM pros who’ve been ousted from a job by an H1B hire?
    – the number of positions Americans have witnessed given to H1Bs at their company instead of qualified interviewed citizen?
    – the number of H1Bs laid off upon receiving a green card?

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    • I doubt that anyone has collected those stats, at least not officially. Likewise, I’ve never seen official stats on the number of older tech workers (say, over 50) who are unable to find work in the industry after being laid off. From my experience, that is the final fate suffered by many, if not most, older programmers. There’s probably little motivation to collect such stats as it would pretty much blow up the myth that there is a shortage of tech workers.

      You can see a chart showing the number of developers in each age group at http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-age-programmer-2015-4 . It shows about 80 percent of programmers being age 34 for less. Only about 2.4 percent are over 50. Where did all of the older programmers go?

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      • Companies simply want young people because they are both cheaper + faster. People over 50 simply do not have ultra-fast reflexes like a 25 year old does. Nor the stamina. Illegal to discriminate on age, but that is the way it is in tech. That is why as an older programmer, I work out like the dickens, stay slim, and stay full of energy around 50. No kid is going to beat me at a job, ever, and I make sure of it. How many older programmers do you know who will ride a bicycle 30 miles a couple times a week plus daily 5 mile jogs, just to make 100% certain no youngster can outwork them ever. Sometimes you just gotta go over the top to win. And I do.

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        • Glob, I don’t really understand your point, and I agree with Norm. Programmers and engineer, like all other professionals get better with more experience. A 50 year old engineer knows what directions to explore, what to avoid, and gets things done.

          You say that people over 50 lack stamina and reflexes, but then go on to say that doesn’t apply to you. It doesn’t make sense.

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        • I disagree with your comments completely, especially the generalizations regarding age. Yea, I’m over 50 and, not only code circles around my younger counterparts but they have ZERO ability to design anything. I design,develop,code for the sole purpose of making our employees more efficient. That’s why I’ve stayed employed ever since the Siemens ICN/TATA debacle.

          …if you want to generalize? I’d say younger programmers create problems/issues(aka opportunities for others), because their experience leads them to come up with half-baked solutions.

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  8. I have a solution. Propose M1 and L1 Visas to bring in millions of doctors and lawyers who will work for a fraction of the going rate. Then wait for the howls of protest.

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    • Which will never happen because they have the AMA and ABA lobbies in DC protecting their industries. Pay up in DC, get what you want, don’t, get screwed. American IT workers don’t, and are getting screwed.

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  9. That would be data high tech companies would fight very hard to protect. I still work in the high tech industry, every year, around this time (intel review time) I get calls from senior people looking for a job. Last year i had a software engineer from intel asking about a software opening at my company. I asked the hr recruiter about it and he said “go ahead and apply, but I wish he wouldn’t.” I took that to mean we’re going to call, but we have no intention of hiring.

    We’re a small outfit, I can’t imagine how many requests intel, Google and Facebook reject. It definitely doesn’t support their narrative, so it would be locked up in court for years.

    I wonder if NumbersUSA or someone could create a database of qualified candidates.

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    • That”s a good idea. I’d be into hosting an online MySQL DB of qualifed US tech workers out at Switch in Vegas if anyone is interested. Cost is only around $70-80 mo for a colo’ed server. We could establish an entire nationwide DB of US tech workers available and once and for all put to bed the myth that there’s a shortage of qualified American STEM talent.

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  10. Watched the trailer

    “The untold story of over 1.5 millions of immigrants in America”.

    H-1B is non-immigrant visa. That was the deal. So, now they are “immigrants”.

    “These immigration laws directly affect our businesses, people’s lives”.

    Very true – your businesses, our lives.

    “All the things I’ve done seem to amount to nothing”.

    Welcome aboard.

    “You can build you life where you choose to”.

    This is the option that American workers don’t have. We cannot go back to India.

    On the other hand, I work with these people. They are not necessarily young, many in their 30s and 40s. Some maybe even older. They are forced to work long hours.

    I was told that the wait for the green card is now 8 years. So, they are stuck.

    I also don’t quite understand why they should feel sorry for American workers. We are the ones who elected the Congress to enact the laws that had created this system.

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    • The following is from the Washington Post, April 3.

      The H-1B visas last for three years, and can be renewed once. But workers applying for green cards can renew their visas indefinitely. There is currently a decade-long backlog of Indian green card applicants. Given the tremendous delay, companies have an incentive to hire workers from India, who critics say end up in a system of de facto “indentured servitude”.

      Wow! I did not know this. I thought the visa could only be renewed once.

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      • Yes, a change made a few years ago (2004?) allowed those with a pending green card to renew the H-1B visa one year at a time after the six-year period ends.

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        • H1B’s can be extended for 3 years after I140 is approved (Second stage of green card petition). This is when the wait time starts. Mostly only Indians and Chinese need this extension. The immigration lawyers have secretly lobbied to ensure that wait time for backlogged GC applicants stays as it is and also immigrants stuck in backlog stay on H1B so that they keep renewing and fill their pockets.

          If you notice carefully, an immigration lawyer will never write posts/blogs about clearing GC backlogs. If they do write, it is always concurrently with the demand for more H1B’s. So until H1B numbers are doubled, they do not want to let go of their backlogged revenue.

          Ironically Immigration lawyers proudly claim to represent immigrants.

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          • Right.

            A few weeks ago, I had coffee with a partner in a very prominent national immigration law firm, at his request. Nice guy, very sharp, and he insisted that the lawyers are devoted to helping their immigrant clients. He even said some companies give awards to HR for reducing the wait time for a green card. I told him I wasn’t buying any of that, and cited various examples showing the parties want to drag out the process, including Google. He stopped insisting.

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          • >> some companies give awards to HR for reducing the wait time for a green card

            another classic example of “the cartel” at work !

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      • Indentured servitude with $400K remitted back to India over 6 years and great retirement at 30 sure looks a whole lot better than being a US citizen with continual unemployment and no hope or future.

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  11. I was skeptical about Trump (Or Bannon) doing anything to fix the H1-B issue especially after reading the following article during election season. It was an issue that they exploited well during the elections.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/2016-november-undecided-voters-trump-clinton-214418
    “Trump is probably the one Republican candidate whom the Indo-Americans I know have supported so widely……

    I asked one of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s top aides who was visiting Tampa a couple months ago about this election, “What changes are we going to see with a Clinton presidency?” His response was that the government of India was rooting for Trump. Largely because he’s pro-business and he’s willing to open up more trade with India.”

    Considering how narrow Trump’s victory margin was (<85k votes), even a small demographic group like indian-americans can have an outsized influence, especially in FL, NC, PA etc. So I am not surprised that he hasn't lifted a finger to help american programmers losing their jobs with the H1b/offshoring wave by Indian outsourcing companies like Infosys.

    Also consider the following
    – One of Trump's prominent Indian-American fundraisers – Mr. Shalabh Kumar – has been predicting that there won't be any action on H1-b. Actually he has been predicting the H1-Bs will go up with Trump's policies. I found him also to be connected to Mr.Modi. He was trying to influence US lawmakers to get the ban on Mr.Modi lifted when Modi was banned from entering US or UK.

    – Many minister's in Mr. Modi's cabinet has been clarifying to Indian media that there won't be any adverse action against indian outsourcing companies since late february.

    How did Mr.Shalabh Kumar and Mr. Modi's cabinet members know Trump's H1-B policy in advance? (which turned out to be accurate).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/10/07/this-indian-american-man-is-one-of-donald-trumps-biggest-donors/
    "Never in the history of the US, we have had an event like this, where a candidate of the US presidential elections is attending a Hindu event, three weeks before the elections," Kumar said, adding that RHC and the event had Trump's enthusiastic support.

    Another organisation he heads, the National Indian American Public Policy Institute, had lobbied extensively for the revoking of Modi's visa ban in the US, even taking a delegation of mostly Republican US Congress members to visit the leader in 2013

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/trump-not-planning-any-executive-order-on-h-1b-visas-says-his-indian-american-backer-shalabh-kumar/articleshow/56931364.cms
    "As such I visualise need of more IT workers in the US," he (Mr. Kumar) said, adding that the US has huge shortage of IT workers which can be filled up only by Indian IT professionals.

    Of the view that the Trump Administration would be working to ensure that there is no fraud and abuse of H-1B visas, Kumar said he believes that the White House would work to eliminate country-quota towards allocation of green cards for legal permanent residents.

    ———————-
    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump eliminates per country quota to appease indian-americans and create a reliable voting block for him in 2020 (and campaign contributions). This movie may be the first step in that direction.

    You can see the same entitlement attitude from Mr. Kumar also in the above article – "only Indian IT professionals can fill the huge shortage"!!

    If every american high school graduates 10 extra students that will pursue a computer science degree, wouldn't that alleviate the shortage? Shouldn't that be what one expect from a supporter of Trump, the populist candidate? Instead, we see more lobbying for H1-B and green card here.

    Follow the money!!

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  12. In response to Anon Programmer’s post on March 31, 2017 at 6:00 pm, there are claimed shortages in networking, network management, etc. IMO, they stem from the same issue: the interviews eliminate qualified candidates. For example, this post is the start of a thread about network engineering phone screens. Note how different many of the responses are to even the (seemingly) most simple questions.

    https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2012-July/049921.html

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    • Hello Greg,
      Ah I see. Maybe they rigged the interview to get the candidate they want. And I do agree that non-technical HR shouldn’t be doing technical questions that have multiple possible correct answers. Also when a technical person is doing the interview for the technical stuff, the knowledge of the interviewee will be gauged more effectively by the conversation / type of questions he/she is asking.

      More specifically, I have read about lot of American programmers, computer analysts being replaced by H1-b’s. Have you guys heard of any of these (network, info sec) fields being replaced by h1-b’s. And to add to that what is not being replaced now might be replaced in the future as h1-b’s figure out that there are replacement potential in those lines of work. Very hard to predict which discipline of computer science is a safe bet and shielded from replacement.

      Thank you very much for the reply greg, have a good day.

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        • Hello Norman,
          My intention wasn’t to highlight the replacement aspect. Its just very hard in this quagmire to know which line of discipline is safe and what’s the real number of jobs available vs. fake job ads or vs. fake shortage claims. And trying to stay ahead of the curve and trying to know when the axe (or the H1-boot) is going to be dropped seems hard with lack of information.

          Anyway, I do understand your concern very well. These employers and their lobbyist’s would pounce on any single distraction they get to avoid talking about not hiring Americans.

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  13. Looks like India is pressing UK also for more work visas, but they don’t seem to be relenting. May be they learnt their lesson from the H1-B scam going on in US.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/india-s-trade-pact-with-post-brexit-uk-could-run-into-hurdles/story-QLoJPZi0uTkZbbBVr1oBZJ.html
    “For some time, India’s main focus has been on visa hurdles for business and the ability to transfer employees from India to offices in the UK.”

    “Attempts to open the UK to more Indian IT specialists and other professionals (the so-called Mode 4) foundered on the objections of Theresa May. The main irritant in UK-India relations is visas. In the absence of creative ideas on freeing up immigration and visiting rights from India, ministers will continue to get a flea in their ear in Delhi.”

    When will our politicians start working for Americans?

    I think Trump administration is supposed to provide some input to appeals court on H4 spouse work authorization issue by this month. Let us see what happens on that.

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